Become The Best Version Of Yourself

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Fourth Trimester Podcast Episode 24: Become The Best Version Of Yourself

In a word, Ann Jonas is resilient. She incorporates her own sense of spirituality into her coaching work, having experienced the sudden loss of her parents (her father killed her mother and died himself shortly thereafter in jail) and subsequently the loss of her partner when her daughter was only two years old. One of Ann’s takeaways from her journey thus far is that “life happens for you, not to you.” She uses the metaphor of a car as the way we can look at life. There’s a huge front windshield so we can look ahead and look around us.

The difference between therapy and coaching is that therapy is often looking back and asking ‘why’, while coaching is looking forward and asking ‘how’. Esther and Ann talk about empathy, tragedy, compassion, and how a person’s experiences help a person to learn and grow.

Ann considers herself a “pivot person”. She believes in the ability to change for the better by becoming curious about what is happening. There are three levels of listening: in the mind (what are my thoughts?), in the body (how am I feeling?) and globally (what are the possibilities around me and what makes those exciting or otherwise?). All three are important when it comes to understanding yourself and the opportunities around you.

“We are naturally creative, resourceful and whole.” – Ann Jonas


The film Inside Out does a great job of talking about how emotions balance one another. For example, Joy needs Sadness. For anyone who hasn’t seen the film, this trailer will give you an idea:

This episode also touches on the experience of becoming and being a gay parent, including everything from contracts, to donors, and the community.

Listen to Ann share how to become the best version of yourself on Episode 24 of the Fourth Trimester Podcast. Enjoy! xo

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